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George's avatar

People who are woke have plenty of parties to vote for and will never consider a right-wing party. There are tiny, tiny proportions of people who simultaneously hold woke social views and believe in capitalism and small government at the same time.

The reason the Tories are doomed amongst the young is because for anyone younger than 50, they won't remember a Tory government overseeing rising living standards and a feeling of opportunity, and the only Tory government they do remember gave them 14 years of hopelessness and stagnation. Everything else really is secondary to that.

Frankly I think the Tories are beyond saving anyway, but woke capitalism is not going to win back the people attracted to woke socialism as a result of their having no stake in society and living through such a prolonged squeeze on living standards, and active fiscal hostility towards their age cohort from the Tories.

I have my doubts about Reform for a number of reasons, but I can't see any party of the right out-competing them. The Tories could try to fill the niche vacated by all the parties, of looking out for the working age taxpayer who pays for everything but gets nothing back, but the trouble is their only remaining voters are all over 70 and their remaining MPs are mostly big-government Blairites who think that poor old Rishi was unfairly maligned and dearly wish he was given the chance to finish the job.

The voter cohort that sustains the Tories is not remotely big enough in the long run, but they're all the Tories have. They can't abandon them for a group which doesn't currently vote Tory at all. The Jaguar rebrand is a poor analogy because effectively, what Jaguar have done is pull out of the mass market in favour of pitching their cars entirely at influencers, Premier League footballers and cryptocurrency entrepreneurs. In politics, pulling out of the mass market is not an option because votes are the currency.

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Reece Macaulay's avatar

Quite frankly both are important, but of course there are a massive number of people who aren’t

1. Liberal

2. Woke

Large portions vote Tory, because thats supposed to be their party.

Massive numbers of people are

1. Liberal

2.Woke

Large portions vote labour liberal and green, because that’s supposed to be their parties.

Large portions of people are

1.socially conservative

2. Economically left wing

Large portions vote reform because they think that’s their party

Parties don’t long last leaving their voters for new ones, the problem is how do we solve the economic problems of modern Britain, whilst preserving and reforming her ancient institutions?

For this you need to dump in equal measure massive state centralisation and beaucracy AND free market mania. None of its relevant to todays economic problems, the economic effects the cultural and indeed seems to feed off one another.

For example family breakdown makes houses less affordable, fewer incomes to go around, things are also more expensive (more people employed the lower the earning power) but because prices are high and so is demand people delay getting married or having children. This makes the social welfare system unstable… and so on.

The problem with the modern Tories is they are wedded to Cameron’s social policy (look what badenoch says about those who believe in family values) and blairite economic and political views.

Modernise by gutting these failed paradigms.

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